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[Scot LaFaive]

>There is a standard USA pronunciation.

My vote for Tom's most incredible proclamation yet. Seriously, any bubble
gum chewing freshman in Linguistics 101 could tell you differently. I'm not
an elitist, but I have to ask Tom: have you ever taken even one course
(college or otherwise) on basic linguistics? I'm not trying to be hurtful;
I'm just in shock at the above statement.

Scot


On 2/19/09, Tom Zurinskas <truespel at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> My first cut at the truespel dictionary was with the American Heritiage,
> then later additions were with m-w.com.  I didn't do word to word
> comparing, but my experience is that they are practically identical.  There
> is a standard USA pronunciation.
>
> You make me wonder about comparing words with the "awe" phoneme in
> them.  My feeling is that m-w.com favors awe-dropping.  The word "boss"
> for instance in m-w.com is spoken ~baas.  But toss and loss are "awe"
> words, ~taus, ~laus.  Not very consistent.
>
> "Talking" dictionaries are a fairly recent phenomenon.  Wonderful.  Talk on
> the internet as well.  I apparently am the only person to talk in this
> forum.  We should do it more.  Anybody got a good way?
>
> Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
> see truespel.com
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> > Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:32:19 -0600
> > From: Bill.Mullins at US.ARMY.MIL
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> > Yes, it's free/available, but is there any reason to suppose it is
> > accurate? Or complete?
> >
> > When American Heritage and M-W differ, who do you prefer?
> >
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> >> I've got a few issues with m-w.com but I applaud them roundly.
> > They've
> >> given us a marvelous resource for free such that we can hear the
> >> pronunciation of English words in USA accent. That was a major task
> > to
> >> give away (granted there are some popups).
> >>
> >> They've done a good job and were very brave coming forward with it. I
> >> also use the American Heritage Talking Dictionary, which I paid for
> >> before m-w.com came along.
> >>
> >> Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
> >> see truespel.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:49:48 -0600
> >>> From: Bill.Mullins at US.ARMY.MIL
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> >>>> To use m-w.com as a pronunciation standard, I'll truespel the
> > sounds
> >> I
> >>>> hear in your list.
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> >>> To use m-2.com as a "standard" seems somewhat arbitrary. Do you have
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