flyting and rap

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Tue Jan 13 18:56:25 UTC 2009

Of course. What else would it be? And the standard eye-dialect
spelling is "two-faced-ed." There's no point in using eye-dialect, if
you're just going to Uncle-Remus it, so that only someone who's heard
the original speaker can figure out what you mean without having to
study over it.

All say, "How hard it is that we have to die"---a strange complaint to
come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
-Mark Twain

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Mark Mandel <thnidu at> wrote:
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> In this sentence --
>> /Another such
>>    reduplicative or interruptive syllable still in use among American
>>    Negro reciters today --- who do not say "toastisses," so far as I
>>    know --- is "two-faceted," meaning having two faces, not two facets;
>>    as quoted in Bruce Jackson's /Get Your Ass In the Water /(1974) p.
>>    101: "But it's hell to learn when you have to burn for some
>>    two-faceted cocaine broad."
> -- I bet the word transcribed "two-faceted" has 3 syllables, not four:
>  /tu: feistId/ rather than /tu: faesItId/
> as if "two-faced" + "-ed". Seems likelier in the register, makes more
> sense, and scans better.
> Mark Mandel
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