flyting and rap

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Wed Jan 14 18:07:29 UTC 2009

And I punted the old uncle when I couldn't figure out what "sezee,"
which I read as [si zi], meant. In an earlier thread WRT to this item,
someone provided "says he" as though that were obvious. As I tumble
through my seventh decade of soul, I'm still waiting to hear anyone of
*any* race, creed, color, or sexual orientation use "says he" in real
life. Perhaps Uncle R. could use some editing to make him easier for
the less metropolitan of us to read.

I got the old uncle's meisterstueck as a Christmas gift when I was
about eight. When my grandmother was likewise unable to read it, I put
the book aside and would have forgotten about it by now, were it not
so popular among those sometimes referred to as "the other group."

It's clear that "two-faceted" means "having two facets," as any fool
can plainly see. Is this Legman's eye-dialect or someone else's? Or a
semi-literate misspelling?

All say, "How hard it is that we have to die"---a strange complaint to
come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
-Mark Twain

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Mark Mandel <thnidu at> wrote:
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> Well, not being particularly familiar with the dialect, I read it as
> the standard Eng. orthog. suggests, which Legman actually advises
> against:
>>"two-faceted," meaning having two faces, not two facets;
> Mark Mandel
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at> wrote:
>> Of course. What else would it be? And the standard eye-dialect
>> spelling is "two-faced-ed." There's no point in using eye-dialect, if
>> you're just going to Uncle-Remus it, so that only someone who's heard
>> the original speaker can figure out what you mean without having to
>> study over it.
>> -Wilson
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