OT: Marais and Miranda

Joel S. Berson Berson at ATT.NET
Wed Jul 8 02:21:31 UTC 2009


There are biographies on the Internet.  I think one discusses the name change.

Joel

At 7/7/2009 09:35 PM, Wilson Gray wrote:
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>A friend sent me a kind of teach-yourself-kiSwati grammar from
>Swaziland in 1976. I still have the book, but the only word that I can
>recall is _sipune_ [si'pune] "spoon." Who knew that the British Army
>had borrowed a word from an an obscure south-african people? ;-)
>
>I wonder when they stopped being *Joseph* Marais and Miranda and
>became simply "Marais & Miranda"? When I saw them last, on TV in the
>*very* early 'Fifties - Texaco Star Theater? Your Show of Shows? -
>they were still *Joseph* ..., as they were on radio, and he became
>simply "Marais"?.
>
>-Wilson
>
>On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Joel S. Berson<Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> > At 7/7/2009 02:28 PM, Mark Mandel wrote:
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> >>On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Jonathan Lighter
> >><wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >> > Zulu pidgin for "I'm a little teapot...."
> >> >
> >>
> >>Dammit, you got me a-searchin'! Mudcat Cafe, of course. This is the song I
> >>learned from Marais & Miranda recordings.
> >
> > I had the pleasure of hearing it sung by Marais and Miranda.  (In
> > NYC, although I no longer remember what venue.)
> >
> > Joel
> > ditto folkie.
> >
> >
> >>http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=2769#1949082
> >>==========
> >>*Subject:* Lyr Add: ZULU WARRIOR (from Marais and Miranda)
> >>*From: <http://www.mudcat.org/help.cfm?helpitem=from>*
> >>Q<http://www.mudcat.org/usersearch.cfm?who=Q>
> >>*Date:* 26 Jan 07 - 05:08 PM
> >>
> >>Gee, this whole long thread and no Marais & Miranda lyrics.
> >>-----
> >>*THE ZULU WARRIOR*
> >>Marais and Miranda
> >>
> >>March tempo
> >>I-kama zimba zimba zayo
> >>I-kama zimba zimba zee,
> >>I-kama zimba zimba zayo,
> >>I-kama zimba, zimba,
> >>See him there, the Zulu warrior,
> >>See him there, the Zulu chief, chief, chief
> >>See him there, the Zulu warrior,
> >>See him there, the Zulu chief, chief, chief, chief
> >>I-kama zimba, I-kama zimba
> >>Zikama zimba layo zee,...
> >>Wah! chief, chief, chief, chief!
> >>Wah!
> >>
> >>Optional second voice:
> >>I-kamazimba zimba zayo
> >>I-kama zimba zimba zee
> >>I-kama zimba zimba zayo
> >>I-kama zimba zimba zee,
> >>and etc.
> >>With score. Marais and Miranda, Folk Song Jamboree, pp. 62-64, Ballantine
> >>Books pb.
> >>
> >>Note- "AFRIKAANS ORIGIN. During the so-called Kafir War, the British
> >>soldiers sang "Hold him down the Swazi
> warrior." I substituted Zulu as being
> >>a more familiar name, and brighter "nonsense"
> words than I used to hear as a
> >>child. This is NOT a native chant, but rather an imitation of the type of
> >>chanting heard by the settlers. I would call it a pickniekliedjie, a picnic
> >>song. During World War II, American GI's sang it in conjunction with South
> >>African troops in North Africa." Marais.
> >>-----
> >>
> >>Bert, way up above, seems to have some of the older words Marais is talking
> >>about.
> >>
> >>Words and music by Josef Marais, copyright
> 1946 and 1952 by Dartmouth Music,
> >>Inc.
> >>
> >>==========
> >>
> >>m a m
> >>50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and 00s folkie (and 90s and 00s filker)
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>-Wilson
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