"lager beer", 1850, 1855

Joel S. Berson Berson at ATT.NET
Sat Jun 20 22:02:06 UTC 2009


At 6/20/2009 03:51 PM, Wilson Gray wrote:
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>And not [[lager beer] house]? That reading is unavailable in your
>grammar? I can't get [lager [beer house]]!
>
>"Different strokes for different folks," to coin a phrase.

It's a beer-house serving lager, not a house for
lager beer.  Therefore -- if I understand the
brackets correctly -- I take the quote as [lager [beer house]].

Joel


>-Wilson
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>On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Joel S. Berson<Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> > For "lager beer", the OED has 1852 (a dictionary definition), then 1858.
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> > North American and United States Gazette, (Philadelphia, PA)
> > Saturday, March 02, 1850; Issue 16,869; col
> H   [19th Century U.S. Newspapers]
> >
> > The March of Malt. ... Most probably this is for the brewing of the
> > celebrated Lager Beer, which has now such unprecedented popularity in
> > Philadelphia.
> >
> > [The 1849 quotation from the "North American and United States
> > Gazette (Philadelphia, PA) Wednesday, November 21, 1849; Issue
> > 16,784; col I" is "Lager beer house", thus not "lager beer" but "beer
> > house".  There are also two very slightly earlier hits, Feb. 28 and
> > March 1, 1850 -- but these are given as full pages of advertisements
> > without any highlighting that I see, and I'll be d----d if I'll
> > attempt to find them.]
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> > Lithograph, Currier & Ives (Philadelphia, 1855), "The Follies of the
> > Age, Vive la Humbug!!".  The Library Company of Philadelphia.   In
> > Rael, Black Identity & Black Protest, 142.
> >
> > [Sign on flag.]  Lager beer, allowed to drink 48 glasses.
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> > Joel
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