The Boy in the Striped Pajamas

[Wilson Gray]

Interesting. I've *always* considered the PST of "cast" to be simply
"cast," likewise with "broadcast, broadcast," though I've heard
"broadcasted," perhaps twice. After hearing a lecture in which
Kiparsky claimed that derived verbs always become regular, e.g. "flied
out to left-center," not "flew out to left center" (Larry has an
interesting analysis of this), I began to wonder why "broadcast" had
not shifted to "broadcasted" WRT to radio and television. It was
perhaps twenty years later before I ever heard "broadcasted." It's
still so rare that I have no idea whether I've head it since.

OTOH, I don't think that I've ever heard or even read "casted."

BTW, have I even understood Herb's post? I have the feeling that I've
misread it, because I get the impression that he's claiming that the
ordinary PST of "cast" is "casted." And that is most definitely news
to me.

-Wilson
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On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Herb Stahlke <hfwstahlke at gmail.com> wrote:
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> So the cut/hurt class is expanding to include final /s+coronal/
> clusters? Â I wonder if there are cases of taste, list, and others
> having invariant PST/PSP. Â I have heard "cast" as a PST form, both
> from theater sorts and from fishermen.
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> Herb
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> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Arnold Zwicky <zwicky at stanford.edu> wrote:
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>> On Mar 11, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Herb Stahlke wrote:
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>>> I found your pronunciation of the past tense of "text" surprising.
>>> Morphologically you're treating "text" as a member of the cut/hurt
>>> class of weak verbs that are invariant in their principal parts. Â It
>>> would be the only such verb ending in a consonant cluster, although it
>>> does have the requisite final coronal.
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>> a while back i reported on instances of /pest/ as the PST/PSP of the
>> verb "paste".
>>
>> arnold
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