The Boy in the Striped Pajamas

[Herb Stahlke]

I certainly invited that inference by the way I put it.  I have heard
casted for both the fishing and the theatrical usages, and I've used
it about my own casting (bait, not actors), but I agree that cast as
past is a lot more frequent.  I've heard broadcasted too, but not as
often.

Herb

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Interesting. I've *always* considered the PST of "cast" to be simply
> "cast," likewise with "broadcast, broadcast," though I've heard
> "broadcasted," perhaps twice. After hearing a lecture in which
> Kiparsky claimed that derived verbs always become regular, e.g. "flied
> out to left-center," not "flew out to left center" (Larry has an
> interesting analysis of this), I began to wonder why "broadcast" had
> not shifted to "broadcasted" WRT to radio and television. It was
> perhaps twenty years later before I ever heard "broadcasted." It's
> still so rare that I have no idea whether I've head it since.
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> OTOH, I don't think that I've ever heard or even read "casted."
>
> BTW, have I even understood Herb's post? I have the feeling that I've
> misread it, because I get the impression that he's claiming that the
> ordinary PST of "cast" is "casted." And that is most definitely news
> to me.
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> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Herb Stahlke <hfwstahlke at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> So the cut/hurt class is expanding to include final /s+coronal/
>> clusters? Â I wonder if there are cases of taste, list, and others
>> having invariant PST/PSP. Â I have heard "cast" as a PST form, both
>> from theater sorts and from fishermen.
>>
>> Herb
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>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Arnold Zwicky <zwicky at stanford.edu> wrote:
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>>> On Mar 11, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Herb Stahlke wrote:
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>>>> I found your pronunciation of the past tense of "text" surprising.
>>>> Morphologically you're treating "text" as a member of the cut/hurt
>>>> class of weak verbs that are invariant in their principal parts. Â It
>>>> would be the only such verb ending in a consonant cluster, although it
>>>> does have the requisite final coronal.
>>>
>>> a while back i reported on instances of /pest/ as the PST/PSP of the
>>> verb "paste".
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>>> arnold
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