Uvular /l/ (Was: velarized /l/ again)

[Paul Johnston]

It's due to the aspiration, I think.  I don't have a fricative in
blue, glue.

Paul Johnston

On Mar 12, 2009, at 10:01 AM, Herb Stahlke wrote:

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> Is the sense of a lateral fricative a result of the aspiration of
> initial /p/? Or is there clear lateral constriction and resulting
> turbulence?
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> Herb
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> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Paul A Johnston, Jr.
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>> As a kid, I had this in onset position--it was one of the features
>> I went to speech therapy (in IL) for.  I don't know how widespread
>> it is in NY/NJ/E PA, but I get the feeling I wasn't alone.  In a
>> word like "play", it was some kind of lateral fricative, too.  I
>> still sporadically come out with one.
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>> Paul Johnston
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>> From: Neal Whitman <nwhitman at AMERITECH.NET>
>> Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:46 pm
>> Subject: Uvular /l/ (Was: velarized /l/ again)
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>>> Some people use a different gesture involving the back of their
>>> tongue to
>>> make an /l/: a uvular nasal consonant. (It's represented as [N] in
>>> IPA,which unfortunately is ambiguous here, since [N] is also SAMPA
>>> for the velar
>>> nasal.) I wrote about in a couple of short posts:
>>> http://literalminded.wordpress.com/2006/05/21/totally-uvular/
>>> http://literalminded.wordpress.com/2007/01/10/lsa-2007-l-and-s-at-
>>> the/
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>>> Neal Whitman
>>> Email: nwhitman at ameritech.net
>>> Blog: http://literalminded.wordpress.com
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>>> From: "Herb Stahlke" <hfwstahlke at GMAIL.COM>
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>>>> Wilson mentioned in the previous thread that /l/ tends not to be
>>>> velarized in AAE, at least certainly not as much in other AmE
>>>> varieties.  I've noticed this week the word "colleague"
>>> pronounced on
>>>> TV by two African Americans, one I think an Olympic track
>>> athlete in a
>>>> cell phone ad and the other Ice T on Law and Order SVU.  Both
>>>> pronounced the /l/ without velarization and clearly the onset of
>>>> the
>>>> second syllable.  In my speech the /l/ is ambisyllabic, begins
>>>> velarized and ends unvelarized.
>>>>
>>>> Herb
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