The Colbert Report: "soda water"

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Fri May 15 03:05:09 UTC 2009


In other words, that means that he *can't* be quoted as having said
merely "soda water," but only as having said, "now the syrup in that
soda water"?

What is the essential difference, in this case? If there is a
difference, does it, in some manner, obviate my claim? If so, how? It
has escaped my notice.

-Wilson
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On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Do you really believe that or are you just pulling my leg?
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> -Wilson
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> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Dave Wilton <dave at wilton.net> wrote:
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>> Colbert actually said, "now the syrup in that soda water..."
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>> He was making a fine distinction between "soda pop" and its constituent
>> elements.
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>> At 5/14/2009 10:49 AM, Wilson Gray wrote:
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>>>Did anyone else notice the inadvertent use of (old?) Southern "soda
>>>_water_" by Colbert, a native of South Carolina, in an environment in
>>>which he otherwise was using "soda _pop_"?
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>> Was it clear he meant the flavored stuff, and not "seltzer"? Â The
>> latter is what I think when I hear "soda water". Â (The OED agrees
>> with me, on both "soda pop" and "soda water".)
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>> Or, Wilson, are you saying that in the (old?) South "soda water"
>> could refer to flavored carbonated drinks?
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>> Joel
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