use of "my bad"

[Tom Zurinskas]

Do we need a name here.  Kidsisms



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> Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 02:49:59 -0700
> From: mlee303 at YAHOO.COM
> Subject: Re: use of "my bad"
> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
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> Poster: Margaret Lee
> Subject: Re: use of "my bad"
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> The same descriptors--"childishness" and "baby talk"--were used=A0by the un=
> informed in reference =A0to early (late 19th-early 20th=A0centuries)=A0use =
> of AAE (Black English, Negro dialect, etc.),=A0unaware (or refusing to acce=
> pt the fact) that=A0it is a=A0rule-driven language=A0system.=A0=A0
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> --Margaret Lee
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> --- On Fri, 5/29/09, Arnold Zwicky wrote:
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> From: Arnold Zwicky
> Subject: Re: use of "my bad"
> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 4:57 PM
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> On May 29, 2009, at 7:36 AM, Jon Lighter wrote:
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>> The 1986 Wielgus & Wolff ex. was discovered by me. The seeming
>> childishness
>> of the phrase, combined with a paucity of good cites, kept it out of
>> HDAS
>> I.
>
> what's the surrounding context?=A0 i ask because there's a repeated
> suggestion that the early uses were specifically from black basketball
> players, in which case cites might be hard to come by.
>
> but "seeming childishness" is problematic.=A0 you came across the
> expression and asked yourself who would talk like that, and *given
> your prior experience* your impression was that it sounded like
> something a child would say.=A0 but that's not the question to ask.=A0 the
> right question is: who are the people using this expression, and what
> are they doing with it?=A0 in the case at hand, they were pickup
> basketball players, and i doubt that the expression seemed at all
> childish to *them*.
>
> the problem is that you're projecting your own attitudes onto the
> speakers.
>
>>=A0 Naturally, within a few months of publication (April 1994), I was
>> hearing it frequently on campus.
>
> the OED has a 1986 UNC-CH Campus Slang cite, already not in a sports
> context.
>
>> FWIW, I doubt that "my bad" enjoyed much currency anywhere before
>> the early
>> '80s except possibly as baby talk. FWIW.
>
> do we have any evidence that it was *ever* used as baby talk?
>
> arnold
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