Portuguese language changes

Herb Stahlke hfwstahlke at GMAIL.COM
Fri Oct 9 01:49:39 UTC 2009


I think I learned the word as an undergrad Classics major, and I've
always pronounced it /di'Er at sIs/.  I'm not sure if that's one of Tom's
pronunciations.  I'm not sure if his "die" is /di/ or /daI/.

Herb

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I've *never* heard this word spoken and, until this thread, had never
> noticed that it was spelled dia_e_resis and not di_a_resis. Good thing
> that I've never had occasion to write it or speak it. Though, if I
> *did* have occasion to say it, I'd *still* say [,daI@'risIs],
> irrigardless of what inty (the pronunciation of "*any*" in BE)
> dictionary says.
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> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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>> At 5:38 AM -0700 10/8/09, James A. Landau <JJJRLandau at netscape.com> wrote:
>>>On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 01:42:58 Zulu + 0000 Tom Zurinskas <truespel at HOTMAIL.COM>
>>>wrote:
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>>><quote>
>>>diaeresis has two pronunciations
>>>=20
>>>in UK    die-AIR-ih-sis  ~die"airisis
>>>in USA   die-uh-REE-sis  ~die'urreesis
>>>
>>>as per thefreedictionary.com
>>></quote>
>>>
>>>I trust the editors of thefreedictionary were just having a little
>>>fun, as the supposed USA pronunciation is actually that for the word
>>>"diuresis".
>>>
>> I've only ever heard the former pronunciation and that's the only one
>> listed in AHD4, but I suppose the latter could be an actual spelling
>> pronunciation, and I imagine the context would usually disambiguate.
>> And as we know, some people pronounce it ['Umlaut].
>>
>> LH
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