Geoff N. speaks out! (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Wilson Gray]

Very interesting!

-Wilson

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Mullins, Bill AMRDEC
<Bill.Mullins at us.army.mil> wrote:
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> The original article and follow-ups led me to find the email address of
> the head of the Google Books project (Jon Orwant).  I asked him why
> books that should clearly be in the public domain (pre-1923 and govt
> works) are not fully viewable -- this was his response:
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> Regarding pre-1923 works & government documents: we do need to be
> extraordinarily conservative since people seem to enjoy suing us with
> wild abandon.  Often pre-1923 works are kept in snippet view because
> they lack copyright notices, and the 9th Circuit "Twin Books" decision
> makes it difficult to conclude that books after 1909 that lack copyright
> notices are in the public domain.
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> Government works are not all in the public domain, alas.  If the sole
> author is the US government they are, but not every US government
> document has the US government as the sole author.  One example: an IRS
> circular for which the IRS licensed a syndicated comic strip.  They
> probably licensed the rights solely for the single print run, which
> means that the circular contains copyrighted material and we therefore
> can't put it into full view.   Congressional hearings in particular
> occasionally contain copyrighted material.  Also, there are some
> government documents for which the writing was contracted out, and the
> copyright status of those is uncertain.
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> We have started to fullview some government documents (army training
> manuals among them!) but it requires a fairly rigorous approval
> mechanism inside Google.  More to come.
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> Note his use of "fullview" as a verb in his last graf.
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>> news.slashdot.org/story/09/09/07/2046243/google-books-as-train-wreck-
>> for-scholars
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>> -Wilson
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