"Lord Alfred" or "Alfred, Lord"?

[Laurence Horn]

At 7:44 PM -0400 9/16/09, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
>About 5,000 Raw Googlits for "Laurence, Lord Olivier"  - many punctuated
>weirdly, like "Laurence (Lord Olivier)," and "Laurence (Lord) Olivier."
>

Yet nary a one for "Laurence, Lord Horn".  Is that fair, I ask you?

LH

>On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>  Well, they've done away with {Forename,] Cardinal [Surname]! What did you
>>  expect?! Expect "Lord George G. Byron" any day, now.
>>  -Wilson
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>>  On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Jonathan Lighter
>>  <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>wrote:
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>>  > Smiling my sardonic "what-did-you-expect?" smile, I used to correct
>>  > students
>>  > who infallibly referred to "Lord Alfred Tennyson."
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>>  > I'd still do it, although these days I can't muster even a sardonic
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>>  > Google shows that "Alfred, Lord Tennyson,"
>>  > outnumbers the other chap by nearly ten to one, at least in raw hits.
>>  >
>>  > But "Lord Alfred" is on the rise:
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>>  > 2009 Samantha Henig "Periscope" in _Newsweek_ (Jan. 12): Lord Alfred
>>  > Tennyson's "The Charge of the Light Brigade."
>>  > JL
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