"Lord Alfred" or "Alfred, Lord"?

William Salmon wsalmon1 at INTERCHANGE.UBC.CA
Thu Sep 17 02:00:11 UTC 2009


> Yet nary a one for "Laurence, Lord Horn".  Is that fair, I ask you?

Well, there is a "Lord Horn" described in this 1796 book:

"The Entertaining Adventures of Lord Horn, and Sir Henry Way, in Italy."
With a description of the carnival in Venice. : Also, the duels they fought; the dangers they escaped; and their safe arrival in England. : Likewise, the curious manner two Italian ladies contrive to follow them.

http://tiny.cc/horn612



> LH
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> >On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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> >>  Well, they've done away with {Forename,] Cardinal [Surname]! What did you
> >>  expect?! Expect "Lord George G. Byron" any day, now.
> >>  -Wilson
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> >>  On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Jonathan Lighter
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> >>  > Smiling my sardonic "what-did-you-expect?" smile, I used to correct
> >>  > students
> >>  > who infallibly referred to "Lord Alfred Tennyson."
> >>  >
> >>  > I'd still do it, although these days I can't muster even a sardonic
> >>  smile=
> >>  .
> >>  > Google shows that "Alfred, Lord Tennyson,"
> >>  > outnumbers the other chap by nearly ten to one, at least in raw hits.
> >>  >
> >>  > But "Lord Alfred" is on the rise:
> >>  >
> >>  > 2009 Samantha Henig "Periscope" in _Newsweek_ (Jan. 12): Lord Alfred
> >>  > Tennyson's "The Charge of the Light Brigade."
> >>  > JL
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