"Lord Alfred" or "Alfred, Lord"?

[Herb Stahlke]

A few years ago, my wife and I attended a seminar at Luther Seminary
in St. Paul, MN, on the Lutheran-Catholic Joint Declaration on the
Doctrine of Justification.  One of the speakers was Avery Cardinal
Dulles, who was introduced and referred to that way by both Lutheran
and Catholic participants.  The form isn't completely gone.

Herb

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Well, they've done away with {Forename,] Cardinal [Surname]! What did you
> expect?! Expect "Lord George G. Byron" any day, now.
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> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Jonathan Lighter
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>> Smiling my sardonic "what-did-you-expect?" smile, I used to correct
>> students
>> who infallibly referred to "Lord Alfred Tennyson."
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>> I'd still do it, although these days I can't muster even a sardonic smile=
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>> Google shows that "Alfred, Lord Tennyson,"
>> outnumbers the other chap by nearly ten to one, at least in raw hits.
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>> But "Lord Alfred" is on the rise:
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>> 2009 Samantha Henig "Periscope" in _Newsweek_ (Jan. 12): Lord Alfred
>> Tennyson's "The Charge of the Light Brigade."
>> JL
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