Off-gliding to G

Tom Zurinskas truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
Fri Sep 25 22:06:42 UTC 2009

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Tom Zurinskas=2C USA - CT20=2C TN3=2C NJ33=2C FL7+
see phonetic spelling

> Date: Fri=2C 25 Sep 2009 21:52:39 +0000
> From: truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
> Subject: Re: Off-gliding to G
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> There's a study on ING in American Speech=3D2C summer 2008. It compared p=
> unciation ~in vs. ~eeng for "ing" word endings. For example=3D2C the word=
> iving" can have the alveolar "n" (~livin) or velar "n" (~liveeng)=3D20
> Note:-- No mention in the study is made of how the vowel changes=3D2C but=
> s is my interpretation of the sound difference.
> =3D20
> Turns out that=3D2C the alveolar (~in) is significantly more popular for =
> ing class African and European-Americans Americans=3D2C than Upper-middle=
> ss African and European-Americans. =3D20
> =3D20
> Moral of the story - For the ending "-ing" go for ~eeng for the big bucks=
> =3D2C not ~in.
> =3D20
> Interestingly=3D2C women were more prone to ~in than men.
> Tom Zurinskas=3D2C USA - CT20=3D2C TN3=3D2C NJ33=3D2C FL7+
> see phonetic spelling
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>> Poster: Laurence Horn=3D20
>> Subject: Re: Off-gliding to G
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>> At 1:37 PM -0500 9/25/09=3D2C Barbara Need wrote:
>>>I wonder how much this might be a reaction to the "g-dropping" in
>>>participles (huntin'=3D2C fishing'=3D2C etc.). I have assumed that this =
was a
>>>shibboleth in England based on its treatment in mysteries (there's at
>>>least one Agatha Christie in which it is a clue!).
>> Dorothy Sayers's Lord Peter Wimsey affects this "g-dropping" in
>> participles as an instance of reverse snobbery (as I understand it).
>> LH
>>>Barbara Need
>>>On 23 Sep 2009=3D2C at 6:37 AM=3D2C Lynne Murphy wrote:
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>>>>Poster: Lynne Murphy=3D20
>>>>Subject: Re: Off-gliding to G
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>>>>I probably do this from time to time=3D2C but my sister-in-law (native
>>>>of South
>>>>London) does it a LOT=3D2C though the rest of her family doesn't. I
>>>>it with a certain kind of over-enunciative talking that has a certain
>>>>'lilt' to it as well. (Sorry=3D2C not a very good description.)
>>>>--On 22 September 2009 12:27 -0700 Grant Barrett
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>I received this query from a listener to the radio show and wonder if
>>>>>anyone has any thoughts about it. Is it something you've noticed
>>>>>yourself as being more common? Can you recommend reading on this
>>>>>particular habit?
>>>>>>I wondered if you were aware that=3D2C in your broadcasts=3D2C you te=
nd to
>>>>>>pronounce a hard G at the ends of words like "sing". I am running
>>>>>>into this habitual off-gliding more and more with my acting
>>>>>>students. When I point this out to them=3D2C they are shocked that yo=
>>>>>>could say a word like "sing" without that hard G sound.
>>>>>Grant Barrett
>>>>>gbarrett at
>>>>Dr M Lynne Murphy
>>>>Senior Lecturer in Linguistics
>>>>Arts B357
>>>>University of Sussex
>>>>Brighton BN1 9QN
>>>>phone: +44-(0)1273-678844
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