Off-gliding to G

[Wilson Gray]

Laura Dern! I saw that and thought that I had corrected it.

Interestingly, IMO, "dern" [d^rn] is the standard euphemism for "damn"
among people who pronounce Laura's surname as "Doin" [d^in].

=Wilson

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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> At 12:18 AM -0400 9/27/09, Wilson Gray wrote:
>>It's been said that it's the middle lass that strives to maintain the
>>purity of RP.
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> And bully for her, I say!
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> LH
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>>  The under classes have no occasion to learn RP and the
>>upper classes are free to speak as they please, having no need to
>>impress their betters, since they have none.
>>
>>-Wilson
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>>On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Herb Stahlke <hfwstahlke at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>  Lord Peter also uses "ain't" freely.  This went out of favor in the
>>>  18th c. because of the success of the self-help books, including
>>>  grammars, that, of course, the nobility never bothered to read.
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>>>  Herb
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>>>  On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Alison Murie <sagehen7470 at att.net> wrote:
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>>>>  On Sep 25, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Laurence Horn wrote:
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>>>>>  At 1:37 PM -0500 9/25/09, Barbara Need wrote:
>>>>>>  Lynne,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I wonder how much this might be a reaction to the "g-dropping" in
>>>>>>  participles (huntin', fishing', etc.). I have assumed that this was a
>>>>>>  shibboleth in England based on its treatment in mysteries (there's at
>>>>>>  least one Agatha Christie in which it is a clue!).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Barbara
>>>>>
>>>>>  Dorothy Sayers's Lord Peter Wimsey affects this "g-dropping" in
>>>>>  participles as an instance of reverse snobbery (as I understand it).
>>>>>
>>>>>  LH
>>>>  ~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>  I think Wimsey's dropped g's are meant to reflect a general upper
>>>>  class dialect: one that may be affected to show a kind of insouciance,
>>>>  rather than reverse snobbery.
>>>>  AM
>>>>  My ISP choked on this giving me time to read Paul Johnston's post
>>>>  which sort of confirms my impression.
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>>-Wilson
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>>All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint
>>to come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
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-Wilson
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All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"––a strange complaint to
come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
–Mark Twain

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