pronunciation of "Syracuse"
Alison Murie
sagehen7470 at ATT.NET
Fri Dec 31 17:45:26 UTC 2010
On Dec 31, 2010, at 10:50 AM, Paul Johnston wrote:
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> Subject: Re: pronunciation of "Syracuse"
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> Sounds like it could be part of the Northern Cities Vowel Shift,
> whereby /I/ > /E/ in certain environments, so milk, pillow > melk,
> pellow. Lowering before a typical American English /r/ would be
> even more favored, I think, than before /l/, and it's already
> happened in the 17th c. in /IrC/ environments (as in girl) on the
> way to [@r] outside of Scotland and parts of Ireland and until
> recently, Northumberland throughout English.
> On Dec 30, 2010, at 6:14 PM, Alice Faber wrote:
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>> Subject: Re: pronunciation of "Syracuse"
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>> On 12/30/10 6:09 PM, Charles C Doyle wrote:
>>> On the TV broadcast of the oddly-named New Era Pinstripe Bowl
>>> football game (Syracuse vs. Kansas State) the announcer has been
>>> consistently pronouncing "Syracuse" as [sEr at kjuz].
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>>> Of course, a historical (and orthographic) /E/ preceding /r/ has
>>> frequently come to be manifested as [I]--for instance, in "here"
>>> or "era"--but is the opposite process common?
>>>
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>> That's a fairly common regional pronunciation. I'm not sure what the
>> limits are, but I suspect it's around Syracuse itself, as a lot of
>> the
>> folks I hear it from are sports analysts and announcers whose degrees
>> are from there.
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"Saracuse" definitely extends to the Canadian border in Franklin &
Clinton counties. When we moved up there in 1975, it was one of the
ways of distinguishing natives from outlanders.
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