Limerick (poem) antedating Nov. 30, 1880
Joel S. Berson
Berson at ATT.NET
Wed Feb 3 16:39:36 UTC 2010
Bravo!
Earlier than 1880: I had found a Limerick *poem* from 1878, in the
"19th Century UK Periodicals" database (Gale), but had not been able
to connect such a poem with the word "Limerick" or with the "come up
to" tune. (Is 1878 the earliest known instance of the poem form?)
1878, St. Nicholas [London], Jan. 1, p. 222; from British Library
[perhaps a beta release since it uses the same word twice]:
There once was a man with a child
Who, the neighbors said, never had smiled;
But the father said, "See !
Smile in this way, like me,
And then folks will know when you've smiled.
Joel
At 2/3/2010 10:40 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
>A fabulous discovery, Stephen!
>
>If anyone out there can't see why:
>
>1. Earliest known connection, by many years, of the word "Limerick" with the
>verse form.
>
>2. Confirmation that the verses were sung rather than simply recited from at
>least 1880.
>
>3. Confirmation that the tune used was the Irish slip jig, "Won't You Come
>(Up) to Limerick?"
>
>4. Confirmation that that phrase was used as a chorus.
>5. Convergence of all these factors in North America - amazing in itself.
>
>Almost too good to be true...
>
>Yet true nonetheless.
>
>Awesome.
>
>JL
>
>
>
>On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Stephen Goranson <goranson at duke.edu> wrote:
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> > St. John Daily News, St. John, N. B.
> > Edward Willis, Proprietor
> > Tuesday Nov 30, 1880
> > Vol. XLII, no. 281
> > page 4, column 5
> >
> > [headline:} Wise and Otherwise
> > ....
> > There was a young rustic named Mallory,
> > who drew but a very small salary. When
> > he went to show, his purse made him go to
> > a seat in the uppermost gallery. Tune,
> > wont you come to Limerick.
> >
> >
> >
> http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=Fx81AAAAIBAJ&sjid=kCYDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3306,6135404&dq=come-to-limerick&hl=en
> >
> > Stephen Goranson
> > http://www.duke.edu/~goranson
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> > Worldcat:
> > Daily evening news
> >
> > 1839-1884
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> > Title: Daily evening news
> > Publication: Saint John, N.B.
> > Place: Canada; New Brunswick; Saint John.
> > Year: 1839-1884
> > Frequency: Annual Daily.
> > Description: Sept. 16, 1839-Apr. 8, 1884.; v. ill.
> > Language: English
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> > Other Titles: Daily evening news (St. John, N.B.); Commercial news and
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