Invading Pearl harbor

[Bill Palmer]

Thanks JL.  A point I hadn't considered. I was about to counter with "what
about the invasion of Normandy?" until your next post on this subject.

In this country, whatever it was that happened in Iraq in 2003, is routinely
termed an invasion, but I don't know if that is only used by those who
opposed it, or not.  Maybe those who favored it were more likely to say
"liberation".

Bill Palmer

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> Bill, my SWAG is that in PR/ feel-good/ bureaucrat terms, only bad guys
> "invade."
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> JL
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>> In the 1980s when I was teaching war planning, the preferred term was
>> "force
>> entry".  For whatever reason, "invade/invasion" was never used.
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>> But in any case, I echo the comments of Brian & others..."invasion" stood
>> out as much more out of place than any other part of the quotation..
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>> Bill Palmer
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>> > I think invasion also implies an intent to conquer and stay.
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>> > On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Brian Hitchcock
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>> >> What seems more odd than the quotation marks around "evil" is the use
>> >> of
>> >> the
>> >> word "invasion" to describe what the Japanese did to Pearl Harbor.
>> >>  Wouldn't
>> >> "bombing' or 'attack' or 'destruction' be more apt? Doesn't an
>> >> invasion
>> >> imply (at least some) 'boots on the ground'?
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