"[chimpanzee] politics"

[Joel S. Berson]

We need to find out if Morgan was using "primate" to stand in for
"human" ... and what "descent" refers to.

Joel

At 1/13/2010 11:59 PM, Garson O'Toole wrote:
>In 1972 "The Descent of Woman" by the influential and controversial
>writer Elaine Morgan was published. It contains a chapter titled
>"Primate Politics" that I suspect fits the emerging meaning of
>politics under discussion, but the work is only viewable in snippets
>with GB.
>
>http://books.google.com/books?id=OjqAAAAAMAAJ&
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elaine_Morgan_%28writer%29
>
>
>On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
> > ---------------------- Information from the mail header
> -----------------------
> > Sender:       American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> > Poster:       "Joel S. Berson" <Berson at ATT.NET>
> > Subject:      Re: "[chimpanzee] politics"
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Jon, there is Frans de Waal's "Chimpanzee politics : power and sex
> > among apes", first U.S. ed. 1982; a translation
> > of  "Chimpansee-politiek," apparently also 1982.  I wouldn't be
> > surprised if he was the coiner, although perhaps someone else has an
> > article earlier.
> >
> > I note also that Nicholas Wade had an article in the NYTimes Jan.11
> > (or Jan. 12 in print?), titled, variously, "Deciphering the Chatter
> > of Monkeys and Chimps" or "In Monkey Babble, Seeking Key to Human
> > Language Development ...".  Like the PBSers, Wade too doesn't think
> > chimps have language.
> >
> > Joel
> >
> > At 1/13/2010 09:53 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> >>Tonight's PBS show, "The Human Spark," discussed chimp behavior.
> >>
> >>The term regularly used by the primatologists to refer to interactions
> >>within groups was "chimpanzee politics."
> >>
> >>This sense of "politics" went undefined except for a parallel use of
> >>"manipulation" and "social scheming."
> >>
> >>It was indicated that chimps do not use "language" but do take part in
> >>"politics."
> >>
> >>JL
> >>
> >>------------------------------------------------------------
> >>The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org
> >
>
>------------------------------------------------------------
>The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org

------------------------------------------------------------
The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org