Pied noir: an American connection? or maybe not...
Geoffrey Nunberg
nunberg at ISCHOOL.BERKELEY.EDU
Mon Jan 18 19:11:48 UTC 2010
Wasn't reclamation a frequent pattern with disparaging state nicknames
like "tarheel," "leatherhead," and "hoosier," Jonathan? RHDAS gives
neutral senses for some of these by the mid-19th c.
Geoff
> At 10:30 AM -0600 1/18/10, Jim Parish wrote:
> >Laurence Horn wrote:
> >> At 10:59 AM -0500 1/18/10, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> >> >Is "reclamation" a very recent phenomenon? Offhand, I can't
> think of
> >> >anything before "black" (ca1969).
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >JL
> >>
> >> I think in political and religious contexts it's
> >> been around for awhile, for example for some of
> >> those -ers we were talking about (Quaker, Shaker)
> >> and their relatives. And didn't "Whig" and
> >> "Tory" start out as insults? I'm not sure this is
> >> the same phenomenon, but it's close.
> >
> >More recent than these examples, but my understanding is that
> "suffragette"
> >began as an insult (they preferred to be called "suffragists").
> >
> >Jim Parish
>
> Was "suffragette" ever embraced by its adherents? Or is it more like
> "women's libber", which was never reclaimed.
>
> There are also the -ites for those who at least initially preferred
> -ists, as in "Trotskyite". Again, I'm not sure if these were
> reclaimed or just used so widely that the adherents had no choice.
> (I'm excluding nonce exclamations along the lines of "Yes, I'm a(n)
> ____, and proud of it!")
>
> Let's see what happens to "tea-bagger".
>
> LH
>
>
Geoffrey Nunberg
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