McWhorter on "Negro" [Was: on "Negro English"]

Tom Zurinskas truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
Tue Jan 19 02:19:10 UTC 2010

They should have told Dr King, who in his famous "I have a dream" speech said "Negro" 15 times, "Black" 4 times and "citizens of color" once.

If race truly means nothing, we ought to turn to flavors; chocolate, vanilla, strawberry, almond and banana.  Anything else is rocky road.

Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL7+
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> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:13:08 -0500
> From: wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
> Subject: Re: McWhorter on "Negro" [Was: on "Negro English"]
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> Poster: Jonathan Lighter
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> One reason that "Negro" got discarded was the claim, publicized by
> Carmichael and/or Brown but dating back to at least 1914, that "Nee-gro"
> [often pronounced with contemptuous inflexion] is just a "polite form of
> 'nigger.'" The source was a belief that the "polite form" was used
> cynically as a code-word in the presence of the victims who, of course,
> could not "reasonably" object even if they caught on.
> The southern white pronunciation /nIgr@/, often deliberately equivocal,
> didn't help.
> JL
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Joel S. Berson wrote:
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>> At 1/18/2010 12:20 PM, Bill Palmer wrote:
>>>When I was growing up in Virginia in the 1950's, the few blacks I had
>>>conversations with, routinely used "colored".
>> Was this because there "Negro" sounded to much like "Nigger"? So
>> "colored" was the term of choice among the other possibilities?
>> Joel
>>>The local newspapers in all news stories involving blacks had the word
>>>"negro" following the name. This practice ended sometime in the 60's I
>>>My great aunt and uncle (natives of KY, born in late 1800's) routinely
>> used
>>>"darky", and my wife's aunt, native of SW Georgia, born around 1890
>>>routinely used the term even when in the presence of blacks. Other than
>>>those examples, Stephen Foster was the only person I ever heard use that
>>>Bill Palmer
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