McWhorter on "Negro" [Was: on "Negro English"] (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Bill Palmer]

Interesting, about the toothpaste.  When I was in Vietnam 1966-1967, the
leading brand of it was a French (at least, originally) product, Hynos.  The
character on the billboards adverising it was a very dark skinned African
man, with oversized and prominent glistening white teeth, singing "Prenez,
prenez mon dentrifrice".


Bill Palmer

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> I seem to've invented a new country:  Taiwani.  Sorry 'bout that!
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>> Yes, Russ, I saw the original toothpaste ("Darkie")  in Taiwani 20 years
>> ago, too.  In the year I lived and worked in Taipei and traveled somewhat
>> (Taichung, Ilan), I saw one African-American person (whom I asked where
>> he
>> came from) and no other blacks.
>>
>> Stereotypes are highly exportable.  When asked where I lived in the USA,
>> I
>> frequently got this response:  "Bang Bang!" with the person mimicking
>> holding a pistol, and apparently thinking of Al Capone.  My then home was
>> Chicago.  As frequent a response was "Michael Jordan!!!" with a huge
>> smile.
>>
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>> Best, and "dzai jyan"!  (phonetic spelling learned at U of
>> Michigan....Wade
>> Giles, I think)
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>> Judy
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>> 2010/1/21 Russ McClay <mcclay at taolodge.com>
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>> > On the term "darky", darkie.
>> >
>> > 20-something years ago when I first moved to Taiwan the
>> > ubiquitous toothpaste was (and still is) Darkie Toothpaste.
>> >
>> > The brand features a black man in a top hat.
>> >
>> > In Chinese the brand is: Hei Jen Ya Gao (Black man tooth paste).
>> >
>> > Around 1985 Colgate-Palmolive bought the brand and changed the
>> > name to Darlie.  Exact same packaging.
>> >
>> > The word Darkie had none of the baggage for the Taiwanese that
>> > it apparently had for the new brand owners, who didn't live in
>> > Taiwan.
>> >
>> > I still think it was a very clever brand name change.
>> >
>> > Change the K to an L.
>> >
>> > Darlie Toothpaste
>> > --
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darlie
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