Whilst

Sat Jul 17 17:22:18 UTC 2010

And did you notice he said he was a Marine "during" Vietnam, not "in", as
misspoken by that guy in Massachusetts (don't remember his name and don't
feel like looking it up). I wonder if that was part of a cascade effect, or
if he goes around saying "during" normally. I thought the rifle was cute; no
use wasting a thousand words when one picture will do. OTOH, he said, "we
are Republicans, so we are better than that." I've always found Republicans
to be the worst of everything moral/ethical. But I guess he doesn't think
so. (I thought he said 5 billion. No?)
DAD

If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat?

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From: American Dialect Society [mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of
Bill Palmer
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 1:59 PM
To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Subject: Re: Whilst

[OT] Linguistics aside, it's just a very arresting commercial. I don't know
about y'all, but I certainly do want a well-armed ag commissioner in my
state.

Since I'm already off-topic, $5 million seems like a pretty picayune budget
for the ag commissioner in a  state like Alabama.

And another thing (since Dale brings it up and includes dog tags in his
campaign graphic, and as a retired military officer I can say this ...we
have gotten to the point that
military veteran = selfless saint, personification of honor and virtue.
Military personnel come out of the human race like everyone else. (Still
though, I wish more members of congress & the administration would have
served, so they would have some idea of the effects of their actions.

My apologies for the rant.

Bill P

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From: "David Wake" <dnwake at GMAIL.COM>
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Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: Whilst

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> Listen to the way this guy from Alabama says "why".
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQdTgkY321s
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 16, 2010, at 20:20, Tom Zurinskas <truespel at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
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>> I looked up "whilst" in the "MacMillan Dictionary for Children" that
>> I just bought (I'm collecting dictionaries).  It does not contain
>> the word "whilst".  Only "while" and that in verb form as well.
>> (Does whilst have a verb form too?)
>>
>> Interestingly every word that starts with "wh" is given a first
>> pronunciation of ~hw and a second of ~w (except those pronounced as
>> ~h, as in who).  I never hear ~hw in USA.  I don't say ~hw so that
>> may have something to do with it.
>>
>> Imagine "whoa" as "hwoa"
>>
>> Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL7+
>> see truespel.com phonetic spelling
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>>> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:11:25 -0300
>>> From: dad at POKERWIZ.COM
>>> Subject: Whilst
>>> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
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>>> A while ago, TZ and somebody - don't remember who - had a tiff
>>> about whether
>>> Americans say whilst. TZ was saying they do not. I agreed (quietly
>>> - I
>>> didn't write anything) at the time, thinking it mostly a Britism.
>>> Well,
>>> immediately thereafter I started hearing whilst all over the place on
>>> American TV shows. I thought: hmph. But then I thought: a lot of
>>> writers for
>>> US TV are Brits and Canadians as are many actors in the US. So
>>> maybe there
>>> was dialect leak going on, with American actors saying Brit/
>>> Canadian-written
>>> lines, or Brit/Canadian actors saying whilst and not knowing
>>> they're not
>>> supposed to. I was satisfied with that hypothesis until the other
>>> day I was
>>> watching CNN and the interviewee, the District Attorney of some
>>> Podunk
>>> county in Ohio, said whilst. So now I'm in a funk and don't know
>>> what to
>>> think. Maybe he is another sleeper spy who missed the ESL class on
>>> while/whilst and thus gave himself away, like when Tony Franciosa
>>> said
>>> loo-tenant instead of leff-tenant and gave himself away as not
>>> being a Brit.
>>> DAD
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