Whilst

[Laurence Horn]

At 2:22 PM -0300 7/17/10, David A. Daniel wrote:
>And did you notice he said he was a Marine "during" Vietnam, not "in", as
>misspoken by that guy in Massachusetts (don't remember his name and don't
>feel like looking it up).

Blumenthal, and he's from Connecticut--and don't you forget it! We're
proud of our public misspeakers!

>  I wonder if that was part of a cascade effect, or
>if he goes around saying "during" normally.

Good catch.  I think he is indeed implicating he didn't serve *in*
Vietnam (or he would have said so).

>  I thought the rifle was cute; no
>use wasting a thousand words when one picture will do. OTOH, he said, "we
>are Republicans, so we are better than that." I've always found Republicans
>to be the worst of everything moral/ethical. But I guess he doesn't think
>so. (I thought he said 5 billion. No?)

No, I went back to check.  It's 5 million.  You've probably been
corrupted by the thugs and criminals and/or the illegal immigrants.

LH
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>
>If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat?
>
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>From: American Dialect Society [mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of
>Bill Palmer
>Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 1:59 PM
>To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>Subject: Re: Whilst
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>[OT] Linguistics aside, it's just a very arresting commercial. I don't know
>about y'all, but I certainly do want a well-armed ag commissioner in my
>state.
>
>Since I'm already off-topic, $5 million seems like a pretty picayune budget
>for the ag commissioner in a  state like Alabama.
>
>And another thing (since Dale brings it up and includes dog tags in his
>campaign graphic, and as a retired military officer I can say this ...we
>have gotten to the point that
>military veteran = selfless saint, personification of honor and virtue.
>Military personnel come out of the human race like everyone else. (Still
>though, I wish more members of congress & the administration would have
>served, so they would have some idea of the effects of their actions.
>
>My apologies for the rant.
>
>Bill P
>
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David Wake" <dnwake at GMAIL.COM>
>To: <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 11:16 AM
>Subject: Re: Whilst
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>>  Listen to the way this guy from Alabama says "why".
>>
>>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQdTgkY321s
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>>  Sent from my iPhone
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>>  On Jul 16, 2010, at 20:20, Tom Zurinskas <truespel at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
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>>>  I looked up "whilst" in the "MacMillan Dictionary for Children" that
>>>  I just bought (I'm collecting dictionaries).  It does not contain
>>>  the word "whilst".  Only "while" and that in verb form as well.
>>>  (Does whilst have a verb form too?)
>>>
>>>  Interestingly every word that starts with "wh" is given a first
>>>  pronunciation of ~hw and a second of ~w (except those pronounced as
>>>  ~h, as in who).  I never hear ~hw in USA.  I don't say ~hw so that
>>>  may have something to do with it.
>>>
>>>  Imagine "whoa" as "hwoa"
>>>
>>>  Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL7+
>>>  see truespel.com phonetic spelling
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>>>>  Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:11:25 -0300
>>>>  From: dad at POKERWIZ.COM
>>>>  Subject: Whilst
>>>>  To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
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>>>>  Poster: "David A. Daniel"
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>>>>  A while ago, TZ and somebody - don't remember who - had a tiff
>>>>  about whether
>  >>> Americans say whilst. TZ was saying they do not. I agreed (quietly
>>>>  - I
>>>>  didn't write anything) at the time, thinking it mostly a Britism.
>>>>  Well,
>>>>  immediately thereafter I started hearing whilst all over the place on
>>>>  American TV shows. I thought: hmph. But then I thought: a lot of
>>>>  writers for
>>>>  US TV are Brits and Canadians as are many actors in the US. So
>>>>  maybe there
>>>>  was dialect leak going on, with American actors saying Brit/
>>>>  Canadian-written
>>>>  lines, or Brit/Canadian actors saying whilst and not knowing
>>>>  they're not
>>>>  supposed to. I was satisfied with that hypothesis until the other
>>>>  day I was
>>>>  watching CNN and the interviewee, the District Attorney of some
>>>>  Podunk
>>>>  county in Ohio, said whilst. So now I'm in a funk and don't know
>>>>  what to
>>>>  think. Maybe he is another sleeper spy who missed the ESL class on
>>>>  while/whilst and thus gave himself away, like when Tony Franciosa
>>>>  said
>>>>  loo-tenant instead of leff-tenant and gave himself away as not
>>>>  being a Brit.
>>>>  DAD
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