Whilst
Jonathan Lighter
wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Sat Jul 17 18:03:23 UTC 2010
Republicans are not the worst of everything moral/ethical. You're thinking
of Tea Partiers. To keep it linguistic, Tea Party "non-leader" (seems
every Tea Party member is equally a leader because they believe in freedom)
Mark Williams exclaim on CNN that the NAACP is a top racist organization,
partly because it has the word "colored" in its name?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/14/mark-williams-tea-party-express-naacp-racist_n_646989.html
What he did next is even weirder, if possible. It's a letter to Abe Lincoln.
JL
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>wrote:
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> At 2:22 PM -0300 7/17/10, David A. Daniel wrote:
> >And did you notice he said he was a Marine "during" Vietnam, not "in", as
> >misspoken by that guy in Massachusetts (don't remember his name and don't
> >feel like looking it up).
>
> Blumenthal, and he's from Connecticut--and don't you forget it! We're
> proud of our public misspeakers!
>
> > I wonder if that was part of a cascade effect, or
> >if he goes around saying "during" normally.
>
> Good catch. I think he is indeed implicating he didn't serve *in*
> Vietnam (or he would have said so).
>
> > I thought the rifle was cute; no
> >use wasting a thousand words when one picture will do. OTOH, he said, "we
> >are Republicans, so we are better than that." I've always found
> Republicans
> >to be the worst of everything moral/ethical. But I guess he doesn't think
> >so. (I thought he said 5 billion. No?)
>
> No, I went back to check. It's 5 million. You've probably been
> corrupted by the thugs and criminals and/or the illegal immigrants.
>
> LH
> >
> >
> >If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat?
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: American Dialect Society [mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf
> Of
> >Bill Palmer
> >Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 1:59 PM
> >To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> >Subject: Re: Whilst
> >
> >
> >
> >[OT] Linguistics aside, it's just a very arresting commercial. I don't
> know
> >about y'all, but I certainly do want a well-armed ag commissioner in my
> >state.
> >
> >Since I'm already off-topic, $5 million seems like a pretty picayune
> budget
> >for the ag commissioner in a state like Alabama.
> >
> >And another thing (since Dale brings it up and includes dog tags in his
> >campaign graphic, and as a retired military officer I can say this ...we
> >have gotten to the point that
> >military veteran = selfless saint, personification of honor and virtue.
> >Military personnel come out of the human race like everyone else. (Still
> >though, I wish more members of congress & the administration would have
> >served, so they would have some idea of the effects of their actions.
> >
> >My apologies for the rant.
> >
> >Bill P
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "David Wake" <dnwake at GMAIL.COM>
> >To: <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> >Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 11:16 AM
> >Subject: Re: Whilst
> >
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> >> Listen to the way this guy from Alabama says "why".
> >>
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQdTgkY321s
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Jul 16, 2010, at 20:20, Tom Zurinskas <truespel at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >>
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> >>> Poster: Tom Zurinskas <truespel at HOTMAIL.COM>
> >>> Subject: Re: Whilst
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> >>> I looked up "whilst" in the "MacMillan Dictionary for Children" that
> >>> I just bought (I'm collecting dictionaries). It does not contain
> >>> the word "whilst". Only "while" and that in verb form as well.
> >>> (Does whilst have a verb form too?)
> >>>
> >>> Interestingly every word that starts with "wh" is given a first
> >>> pronunciation of ~hw and a second of ~w (except those pronounced as
> >>> ~h, as in who). I never hear ~hw in USA. I don't say ~hw so that
> >>> may have something to do with it.
> >>>
> >>> Imagine "whoa" as "hwoa"
> >>>
> >>> Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL7+
> >>> see truespel.com phonetic spelling
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----------------------------------------
> >>>> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:11:25 -0300
> >>>> From: dad at POKERWIZ.COM
> >>>> Subject: Whilst
> >>>> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
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> >>>> Poster: "David A. Daniel"
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> >>>> A while ago, TZ and somebody - don't remember who - had a tiff
> >>>> about whether
> > >>> Americans say whilst. TZ was saying they do not. I agreed (quietly
> >>>> - I
> >>>> didn't write anything) at the time, thinking it mostly a Britism.
> >>>> Well,
> >>>> immediately thereafter I started hearing whilst all over the place on
> >>>> American TV shows. I thought: hmph. But then I thought: a lot of
> >>>> writers for
> >>>> US TV are Brits and Canadians as are many actors in the US. So
> >>>> maybe there
> >>>> was dialect leak going on, with American actors saying Brit/
> >>>> Canadian-written
> >>>> lines, or Brit/Canadian actors saying whilst and not knowing
> >>>> they're not
> >>>> supposed to. I was satisfied with that hypothesis until the other
> >>>> day I was
> >>>> watching CNN and the interviewee, the District Attorney of some
> >>>> Podunk
> >>>> county in Ohio, said whilst. So now I'm in a funk and don't know
> >>>> what to
> >>>> think. Maybe he is another sleeper spy who missed the ESL class on
> >>>> while/whilst and thus gave himself away, like when Tony Franciosa
> >>>> said
> >>>> loo-tenant instead of leff-tenant and gave himself away as not
> >>>> being a Brit.
> >>>> DAD
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