"Base ball"
Joel S. Berson
Berson at ATT.NET
Sun Jul 18 16:54:40 UTC 2010
A correspondent alleges the following references to "base ball" prior
to 1800. Are these useful? Useless? Presumably unrelated to the
American game, but so -- I assume -- is the OED's c1815 Jane Austen
quote. They would be at least instances of the use of the phrase.
I would look in the ADS-L archives except that there are over 1800
messages with the word "baseball" in them -- and that's only since 1999.
Joel
>There are several references to base ball in England before in
>writing before 1800.
>
>David Block, in his Baseball Before We Knew It mentions them in
>several places, most notably in chapter10..
[Apparently all the following are taken from Block and Wiles GB, Preview.
>A book intended for children, A Pretty Little Pocket Book, mentions
>a game for children in which they struck a ball and ran around bases.
>
>Lady Hervey ( aka Mary Lepel) writes of the royal children playing
>at base ball in a letter of November 1748. They played indoors with
>aristocratic children and lords and ladies in waiting, it is assumed.
>
>Then Jane Austen, writing in the 1790s, mentions that her heroine
>Catherine preferred baseball to studies.
[I read, actually first published in 1817, although probably written
1798-1799 and the OED cites c1815.]
>In 1875 , in Jolly Games for Happy Homes describes a game without a
>bat but which included running around bases. It was a game girls could play.
>
>Also mentioned is a quote from a character in a book of 1799,
>Battleridge in which a man bemoans being sent to Geneva because, "No
>more cricket, no more base-ball."
Cooke, Cassandra. Battleridge: an historical tale, founded on facts
... By a lady of quality ... . London, G. Cawthorn,
1799. [Apparently in ECCO.]
Joel
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