Bad Taste Breakthrough! PLUS New Phoneme! (UNCLASSIFIED)
Jonathan Lighter
wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Thu Jul 22 16:09:06 UTC 2010
By my count, even "bip" contains three significant contrastive sounds, Three
phonemes.
A vocal imitation of an electronic "beep" (more like "eeeee" actually, but
audibly distinct in pitch from / I / or even / I:: /) contains just one.
JL
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Mullins, Bill AMRDEC <
Bill.Mullins at us.army.mil> wrote:
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> So if Rowan and Martin had said, "You bet your sweet bip" then it would
> be okay for William Shatner to talk S#*!. As it is, Shatner is a
> trailblazer and edgy.
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> > "Bippy" has too many sounds to be a phoneme. It's a lexeme, and
> they've
> > always been a dime a dozen.
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> > JL
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> > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Mullins, Bill AMRDEC <
> > Bill.Mullins at us.army.mil> wrote:
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> > > > Pronounced the same as _S#*!_ ?
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> > > > No kidding, if people do start saying (*Beep!*) to euphemize
> > certain
> > > > monosyllables, it will have become a phoneme of English.
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> > > As did "bippy" -- "you bet your sweet bippy", from Laugh-In, late
> > 1960s.
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> > > > A very bizarre one, but a phoneme nonetheless.
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