Bad Taste Breakthrough! PLUS New Phoneme! (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Mullins, Bill AMRDEC]

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So let me make sure I understand.

"S" (or possibly "S#"?) is a phoneme.

"S#*!" as pronounced by CBS announcers is a phoneme; as pronounced by an
average 9 year old, it is a lexeme.

"S#*! My Old Man Says" is "led by larger-than-life star William Shatner"
(per CBS) and is bound to be the new comedy laff riot of the season.

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> By my count, even "bip" contains three significant contrastive sounds,
> Three
> phonemes.
>
> A vocal imitation of an electronic "beep" (more like "eeeee" actually,
> but
> audibly distinct in pitch from / I / or even / I:: /)  contains just
> one.
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> JL
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> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Mullins, Bill AMRDEC <
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> > So if Rowan and Martin had said, "You bet your sweet bip" then it
> would
> > be okay for William Shatner to talk S#*!.  As it is, Shatner is a
> > trailblazer and edgy.
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> > > "Bippy" has too many sounds to be a phoneme. It's a lexeme, and
> > they've
> > > always been a dime a dozen.
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> > > JL
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> > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Mullins, Bill AMRDEC <
> > > Bill.Mullins at us.army.mil> wrote:
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> > > > > Pronounced the same as _S#*!_ ?
> > > > >
> > > > > No kidding, if people do start saying (*Beep!*) to euphemize
> > > certain
> > > > > monosyllables, it will have become a phoneme of English.
> > > >
> > > > As did "bippy" -- "you bet your sweet bippy", from Laugh-In,
late
> > > 1960s.
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> > > > > A very bizarre one, but a phoneme nonetheless.
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