No more "Christian name, sir?" in Kent, UK
Dan Goodman
dsgood at IPHOUSE.COM
Sun Mar 28 06:18:32 UTC 2010
The two Chinese I'm most likely to talk with (owner-operators of a
convenience store in Minneapolis) give their names as "Joe" and "Ann."
Judy Prince wrote:
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> Indeed, Joel.
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> I'm familiar with some spoken (Beijing-hwa) and written Chinese. Typically,
> I've found that the Chinese know well that our "first name, last name" is
> the reverse of their "family name, 'given name'". Hence, they are not
> confused about our names, but we are Very Confused with theirs since not
> only do few USAmericans know the Chinese tradition of placing the family
> name first, but few of us speak Chinese, (though many Chinese speak
> English), so we gather no clues from the names as to their "family-ness" or
> "given name-ness". Often, a Chinese will introduce herself here using our
> tradition.
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> As some people would say: "Another example of American exceptionalism."
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> Best,
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> Judy
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> On 27 March 2010 19:39, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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>> At 3/27/2010 07:59 AM, Judy Prince wrote:
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>>> "First name" works nicely.
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>> But, like "forename", not for the traditional Chinese and several
>> other cultures (when they're giving their name in answer to being
>> questioned in English).
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>> Joel
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