"put the 'Kibosh on 'em" (antedating, 1834)

[Sam Clements]

Gerald,

Thanks for this.  I"m an amatuer in the game.  No professional credentials.

Now I'm curious.  Where exactly did the Cockneys get this form?

sam
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cohen, Gerald Leonard" <gcohen at MST.EDU>
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Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 21:12
Subject: Re: "put the 'Kibosh on 'em" (antedating, 1834)



Forms such as "vich" for "which" or "vork" for "work" are a feature of
Cockney speech. They are not necessarily eastern European/German.

Gerald Cohen

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 Original message from Sam Clements, Thu 5/20/2010 8:04 PM

<snip>.
Notice the same pattern of an eastern European/German dialect being used.
"which=vich." and
so on and so on.

Sam Clements



----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Goranson" <goranson at DUKE.EDU>
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Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 20:24
Subject: "put the 'Kibosh on 'em" (antedating, 1834)


> Charles Dickens wrote "...put the kibosk on her, Mary" in 1836.
> Here is an apparent antedating.
> Observer [London], Sunday Nov. 30, 1834, p. 4 col. 4.
> Retirement of the Late Ministry Explained
> ....Mr. Dyer put the moderate fine of one shilling and costs on both
> defendants-- "Ah!" said Smith, as he left the office, this here hact vos
> the vork of the Vigs, and now the Duke of Vellington as put the 'Kibosh'
> on 'em, vich they never would have got if they hadn't passed it; that's
> vat floored 'em.
>
> Stephen Goranson
> http://www.duke.edu/~goranson

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