IsLAHM

[Paul Johnston]

I'm surprised you never hear a pronunciation ['tA:lIbæ:n], which is actually closest to the Classical Arabic--the first long /a:/ is backed, because it's next to a velarized/pharyngealized /t/, the second is not (and my teacher--a Palestinian native speaker--had more of an [æ:] than an [a:] for the isolative allophone).

Paul Johnston
On Nov 1, 2010, at 3:00 PM, Victor Steinbok wrote:

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> There is also some question concerning the Taliban. Aside from the i/e
> spelling question, you can hear stress on either first or last syllable
> or both, with both [æ] and [ah] versions.
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> On 11/1/2010 8:58 AM, Laurence Horn wrote:
>> At 2:13 PM +0000 11/1/10, Charles C Doyle wrote:
>>> I'll bet Juan Williams says IZlum.
>>>
>>> --Charlie
>> I'm surprised FOX News and friends haven't settled on "eye-slam" as
>> the official patriotic American pronunciation, as in "eye-rack" and
>> "eye-ran" (and the earlier "eye-talian").
>>
>> LH
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>>> The trendy pronunciation, esp. on NPR.
>>>
>>> Shows you're not a bigot.
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>>> JL
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