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[Mullins, Bill AMRDEC]

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Because deaf people need dictionaries too.

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> Why is the OED better than thefreedictionary.com or m-w.com?  These
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> kind has to give us sound files for pronunciation.  Does the OED do
that?
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> > Date: Mon=2C 1 Nov 2010 09:22:42 -0400
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> > Paul is right=2C of course=2C about the XXL price of the OED's
online
> > subscription. It's just too much for an independent scholar or a
language
> > professional who doesn't have the sponsorship of a university. There
shou=
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> > be a special price for unaffiliated suscriptions.
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> > But=2C luckily=2C there's a middle ground=2C which I heartily
recommend=
> =2C and it's
> > the CD-ROM version. The latest version is called "Oxford English
Dictiona=
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> > =2C
> > 2nd Edition=2C Version 4.0=2C" and it's available in Amazon for
$214.57
> > (discounted from $295.00). That's the one I use=2C and it works
peachily.=
>  It
> > won't include the meganewest entries drafted last month=2C but its
search
> > tools will help you find those words that are burrowed in other
entries.
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> > On Mon=2C Nov 1=2C 2010 at 4:32 AM=2C Paul Frank
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> > > On Mon=2C Nov 1=2C 2010 at 9:22 AM=2C Jesse Sheidlower
<jester at panix.co=
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> > > > On Mon=2C Nov 01=2C 2010 at 08:49:33AM +0100=2C Paul Frank
wrote:
> > > >> Here's a word for your scholarly dissection: meta.
> > > >>
> > > >> Perhaps the most meta moment of the week. In the episode=2C
Charlie
> > > >> drinks beer on the couch and jokes about his "$2500 date
experiences=
> =2C"
> > > >> while preparing to go out with the well-preserved dermatologist
who
> > > >> "scraped a pre-cancerous mole off my ass."
> > > >> =3DC2 =3DC2 TV Guide=2C Oct 29=2C 2010
> > > >>
> > > >> The event proved a mass demonstration of noncommittal
cleverness=2C
> > > >> quirk and irony. Through signage=2C some rally-goers competed
to be =
> the
> > > >> most topical ("One man's socialism is another man's uninformed
> > > >> buzzword")=2C the most off-topical ("I love pineapples") and
the mos=
> t
> > > >> meta ("I am holding a sign").
> > > >> =3DC2 Washington Post=2C October 31.
> > > >>
> > > >> "Meta moment" gets 23=2C000 googlits.
> > > >
> > > > This is in OED=3B the first adjectival example is from 1988=2C
the
> > > > first noun from 1993.
> > > >
> > > > Jesse Sheidlower
> > > > OED
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> > > Thanks Jesse. You're talking me into forking out the money for a
> > > subscription to the online edition=2C because half the time I
don't fin=
> d
> > > what's hidden somewhere in the paper edition of the OED (and I do
know
> > > the alphabet). I guess that ".. oh look! A puppy!" is also in the
OED
> > > as a convenient phrase (or meme=2C if you will) to indicate a
short
> > > attention span. My favorite sign from this weekend's rally was
carried
> > > by a New Yorker: "Americans for ... oh look! A puppy!" - which
speaks
> > > volumes about the attention span of today's electorate and the
media
> > > that feeds it news and pseudo-news.
> > >
> > > Paul
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> > > Paul Frank
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