meta (UNCLASSIFIED)

Mon Nov 1 21:42:39 UTC 2010

And you would describe phonetically written sounds to a deaf person perhaps like colors to a blind person?

Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL7+
see truespel.com phonetic spelling

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> Because deaf people need dictionaries too.
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> > Why is the OED better than thefreedictionary.com or m-w.com? These
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> > kind has to give us sound files for pronunciation. Does the OED do
> that?
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> > Tom Zurinskas=2C USA - CT20=2C TN3=2C NJ33=2C FL7+=20
> > see truespel.com phonetic spelling
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> > > Date: Mon=2C 1 Nov 2010 09:22:42 -0400
> > > From: federicoescobarcordoba at GMAIL.COM
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> > > Paul is right=2C of course=2C about the XXL price of the OED's
> online
> > > subscription. It's just too much for an independent scholar or a
> language
> > > professional who doesn't have the sponsorship of a university. There
> shou=
> > ld
> > > be a special price for unaffiliated suscriptions.
> > >=20
> > > But=2C luckily=2C there's a middle ground=2C which I heartily
> recommend=
> > =2C and it's
> > > the CD-ROM version. The latest version is called "Oxford English
> Dictiona=
> > ry=3D
> > > =2C
> > > 2nd Edition=2C Version 4.0=2C" and it's available in Amazon for
> $214.57
> > > (discounted from $295.00). That's the one I use=2C and it works
> peachily.=
> > It
> > > won't include the meganewest entries drafted last month=2C but its
> search
> > > tools will help you find those words that are burrowed in other
> entries.
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> > > On Mon=2C Nov 1=2C 2010 at 4:32 AM=2C Paul Frank
> <paulfrank at post.harvard.=
> > edu>wrot=3D
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> > > > On Mon=2C Nov 1=2C 2010 at 9:22 AM=2C Jesse Sheidlower
> <jester at panix.co=
> > m> wrote=3D
> > > :
> > > > > On Mon=2C Nov 01=2C 2010 at 08:49:33AM +0100=2C Paul Frank
> wrote:
> > > > >> Here's a word for your scholarly dissection: meta.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Perhaps the most meta moment of the week. In the episode=2C
> Charlie
> > > > >> drinks beer on the couch and jokes about his "$2500 date
> experiences=
> > =2C"
> > > > >> while preparing to go out with the well-preserved dermatologist
> who
> > > > >> "scraped a pre-cancerous mole off my ass."
> > > > >> =3DC2 =3DC2 TV Guide=2C Oct 29=2C 2010
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The event proved a mass demonstration of noncommittal
> cleverness=2C
> > > > >> quirk and irony. Through signage=2C some rally-goers competed
> to be =
> > the
> > > > >> most topical ("One man's socialism is another man's uninformed
> > > > >> buzzword")=2C the most off-topical ("I love pineapples") and
> the mos=
> > t
> > > > >> meta ("I am holding a sign").
> > > > >> =3DC2 Washington Post=2C October 31.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "Meta moment" gets 23=2C000 googlits.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is in OED=3B the first adjectival example is from 1988=2C
> the
> > > > > first noun from 1993.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jesse Sheidlower
> > > > > OED
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Jesse. You're talking me into forking out the money for a
> > > > subscription to the online edition=2C because half the time I
> don't fin=
> > d
> > > > what's hidden somewhere in the paper edition of the OED (and I do
> know
> > > > the alphabet). I guess that ".. oh look! A puppy!" is also in the
> OED
> > > > as a convenient phrase (or meme=2C if you will) to indicate a
> short
> > > > attention span. My favorite sign from this weekend's rally was
> carried
> > > > by a New Yorker: "Americans for ... oh look! A puppy!" - which
> speaks
> > > > volumes about the attention span of today's electorate and the
> media
> > > > that feeds it news and pseudo-news.
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Paul Frank
> > > > Translator
> > > > Chinese=2C German=2C French=2C Italian > English
> > > > Espace de l'Europe 16
> > > > Neuch=3DC3=3DA2tel=2C Switzerland
> > > > paulfrank at bfs.admin.ch
> > > > paulfrank at post.harvard.edu
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