"Authentic pronunciation"
Laurence Horn
laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Mon Oct 4 15:13:29 UTC 2010
At 9:45 PM -0400 10/3/10, Herb Stahlke wrote:
>Typo for "yooper"?
Yup. Typo, or thinko.
LH
>"Youper" gets about 135k raw googits and out of
>the first four pages only two, both spelled "yoope,r" refer to folks
>from da UP. "Yooper" gets about a million hits, most of the first 40
>referring to UPers.
>
>One of my favorite bumper stickers: Say ya tuh duh U. P.
>
>Herb
>
>On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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>> At 12:16 PM -0400 10/3/10, Joel S. Berson wrote:
>>>At 10/3/2010 10:31 AM, Laurence Horn wrote:
>>>>The stereotypical Minnesota pronunciation is that of the Coen
>>>>Brothers' "Fargo", as e.g. in the speech of Sheriff Gunderson
>>>>(Frances McDormand). Hardly among the "least-accented"! (Garrison
>>>>Keillor also portrays various lexical and phonological idiosyncracies
>>>>of Minnesota English on his Prairie Home Companion, and at one point
>>>>a semi-serious spin-off book appeared, Howard Mohr's _How to Speak
>>>>Minnesotan_. Could be worse, you betcha!
>>>
>>>I'll have to rent and re-view the movie.
>>
>> One feature associated with "Minnesotan" as popularly portrayed is
>> the "clear", i.e. non-offglided vowels presumably influenced by the
>> Scandinavian substrate of (some of) the speakers in the upper Midwest
>> (as with the Finnish influence on Youper (U. P. Michigan) vowels).
>> You'll hear it in some of the speech portrayed in "Fargo".
>>
>> LH
>>
>>>(Keillor I discounted as
>>>adopting various odd local dialects, as does Rose on "Golden
>>>Girls".) I seem to have moved the center of unaccented American
>>>English too far north and west.
>>>
>>>Joel
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