"Authentic pronunciation"

[Jonathan Lighter]

You mean Wackipedia and I share the same hearing/ memory defect?  Don't
answer.

JL

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>wrote:

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> At 9:45 PM -0400 10/3/10, Herb Stahlke wrote:
> >Typo for "yooper"?
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> Yup.  Typo, or thinko.
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> LH
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> >"Youper" gets about 135k raw googits and out of
> >the first four pages only two, both spelled "yoope,r" refer to folks
> >from da UP.  "Yooper" gets about a million hits, most of the first 40
> >referring to UPers.
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> >One of my favorite bumper stickers:  Say ya tuh duh U. P.
> >
> >Herb
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> >On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
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> >>  At 12:16 PM -0400 10/3/10, Joel S. Berson wrote:
> >>>At 10/3/2010 10:31 AM, Laurence Horn wrote:
> >>>>The stereotypical Minnesota pronunciation is that of the Coen
> >>>>Brothers' "Fargo", as e.g. in the speech of Sheriff Gunderson
> >>>>(Frances McDormand).  Hardly among the "least-accented"!  (Garrison
> >>>>Keillor also portrays various lexical and phonological idiosyncracies
> >>>>of Minnesota English on his Prairie Home Companion, and at one point
> >>>>a semi-serious spin-off book appeared, Howard Mohr's _How to Speak
> >>>>Minnesotan_.  Could be worse, you betcha!
> >>>
> >>>I'll have to rent and re-view the movie.
> >>
> >>  One feature associated with "Minnesotan" as popularly portrayed is
> >>  the "clear", i.e. non-offglided vowels presumably influenced by the
> >>  Scandinavian substrate of (some of) the speakers in the upper Midwest
> >>  (as with the Finnish influence on Youper (U. P. Michigan) vowels).
> >>  You'll hear it in some of the speech portrayed in "Fargo".
> >>
> >>  LH
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> >>>(Keillor I discounted as
> >>>adopting various odd local dialects, as does Rose on "Golden
> >>>Girls".)  I seem to have moved the center of unaccented American
> >>>English too far north and west.
> >>>
> >>>Joel
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