another "Negro" in quotes
Jonathan Lighter
wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Mon Oct 25 16:35:02 UTC 2010
And watch them shoot to world domination when they do.
JL
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I understand the Netherlands is also thinking of changing their name...
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> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com
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> > My recollection of NYC papers of the '50s and early '60s is similar.
> White
> > suspects were not identified racially. Asian suspects, I believe, were
> > identified by original nationality if immigrants; their names were often
> > enough to identify them as "Oriental."
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> > Which is another word that today is widely regarded as a slur. The only
> > explanation I've ever heard is not that it is "intrinsically demeaning"
> > (like "Negro," supposedly) but that it implies a Eurocentric view of the
> > world, East Asia being no more "oriental" or "occidental" than any other
> > place on the globe, there being no naturally occurring dividing line
> > between
> > east and west.
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> > However, "Eastern" and "Western" are 100% OK.
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> > JL
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> > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 4:35 AM, Margaret Lee <mlee303 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > Also, back in the day (before the '60's), the newspaper in my hometown
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> > > ynchburg, VA identified as "Negro" any black person who had been
> arrested
> > > o=
> > > r had committed a crime,=C2=A0This was probably the same for most
> > > newspaper=
> > > s at the time, especially in the South.=20
> > > =C2=A0
> > > --Margaret Lee
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> > > --- On Sun, 10/24/10, Mark Mandel <thnidu at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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> > > From: Mark Mandel <thnidu at GMAIL.COM>
> > > Subject: Re: another "Negro" in quotes
> > > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > > Date: Sunday, October 24, 2010, 8:13 PM
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> > > OMG.
> > >
> > > m a m, who grew up in NYC, has always lived in the North, and is
> ignorant
> > > o=
> > > f
> > > much of the unwritten (and the written) history of this country
> > >
> > > On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 3:06 AM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > Little-known fact: back in the day, Southern - well, farther behind
> > > > the Cotton Curtain than Saint Louis, IAC - telephone books placed a
> > > > "c" after the names of people who had telephones and were also
> > > > colored. That always struck me as overkill, somehow.
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