another "Negro" in quotes

[Dan Goncharoff]

I understand the Netherlands is also thinking of changing their name...

DanG

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>wrote:

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> My recollection of NYC papers of the '50s and early '60s is similar. White
> suspects were not identified racially.  Asian suspects, I believe, were
> identified by original nationality if immigrants; their names were often
> enough to identify them as "Oriental."
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> Which is another word that today is widely regarded as a slur. The only
> explanation I've ever heard is not that it is "intrinsically demeaning"
> (like "Negro," supposedly) but that it implies a Eurocentric view of the
> world, East Asia being no more "oriental" or "occidental" than any other
> place on the globe, there being no naturally occurring dividing line
> between
> east and west.
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> However, "Eastern" and "Western" are 100% OK.
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> JL
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> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 4:35 AM, Margaret Lee <mlee303 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > Also, back in the day (before the '60's), the newspaper in my hometown of
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> > ynchburg, VA identified as "Negro" any black person who had been arrested
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> > r had committed a crime,=C2=A0This was probably the same for most
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> > s at the time, especially in the South.=20
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> > --- On Sun, 10/24/10, Mark Mandel <thnidu at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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> > From: Mark Mandel <thnidu at GMAIL.COM>
> > Subject: Re: another "Negro" in quotes
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> > Date: Sunday, October 24, 2010, 8:13 PM
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> > OMG.
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> > m a m, who grew up in NYC, has always lived in the North, and is ignorant
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> > much of the unwritten (and the written) history of this country
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> > On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 3:06 AM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > Little-known fact: back in the day, Southern - well, farther behind
> > > the Cotton Curtain than Saint Louis, IAC - telephone books placed a
> > > "c" after the names of people who had telephones and were also
> > > colored. That always struck me as overkill, somehow.
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