re "foodie"

[Garson O'Toole]

Barry Popik has obtained a remarkable collection of results in the
etymological domain of food over the years. Checking his website for
food terms (and every other kind of term) is very often beneficial.
Here are links about foodie:

http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/foodie/
http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/foodiot/
http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/koodie_kid_foodie/
http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/foochebag_foodie_douchebag/

Recently the website Chow interviewed Barry and wrote an article:
http://www.chow.com/food-news/97864/is-foodie-a-put-down/

Garson

On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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> On Dec 8, 2011, at 11:32 PM, Victor Steinbok wrote:
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>> But it's /not/ a "complete synonym of 'gourmet'"!
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> My point exactly.  The actual definition of "foodie" doesn't quite claim =
> complete synonymy as I wrote last night--
>
> A person with a particular interest in food; a gourmet. Sometimes =
> distinguished from =91gourmet=92 as implying a broad interest in all =
> aspects of food procurement and preparation.
>
> --but I still don't think that quite describes it, although the article =
> I mentioned--focusing on those insisting on the virtues of obtaining =
> local and wild ingredients--wouldn't characterize a gourmet the way it =
> does a foodie.  Let's see what AHD5 (yay!) has...
>
> Nope, basically the same, I'm afraid:
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> Slang.  'One has an ardent or refined interest in food; a gourmet.  Also =
> call _foodist_.'
>
> Maybe I'm also finding a difference in the _kind_ of food foodies vs. =
> gourmets are in love with, and what the prototype member of each =
> category looks like (dresses like, talks like, etc.). as well as the =
> insistence on sourcing the ingredients and so on.  Is there a more =
> accurate definition around?  I'd like one that predicts that, say, =
> Calvin Trillin is a foodie but not a gourmet. =20
>
> LH
>
>>=20
>> On 12/8/2011 8:41 PM, Laurence Horn wrote:
>>> ...
>>>=20
>>> But even if the OED's Greene cite does turn out to be unantedateable, =
> their definition--basically treating "foodie" as a complete synonym of =
> "gourmet", seems a bit off, if only because of the sort of people each =
> term evokes (in both the U.S. and the U.K., as far as I can tell).
>>>=20
>>> LH
>>=20
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