do, v.i.

Joel S. Berson Berson at ATT.NET
Tue Jan 18 17:42:48 UTC 2011


Goes along with the water ... uh, wine, doesn't it?  Although by the
time of the GVS, it must have transformed into ale (and cheese).

Joel

At 1/18/2011 12:30 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
>The people wanted to watch Him do.
>
>JL
>
>On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> > Of course it was "doh" -- Christ was telling us to prepare the staff
> > of life for others, as we would wish others to make doh for us if we
> > were starving.
> >
> > Joel
> >
> > At 1/18/2011 10:20 AM, ronbutters at AOL.COM wrote:
> > >Herb is no doubt right: "as" = "that which"
> > >
> > >If He said /du/ using pre-GVShift vowels, He really would have been
> > >saying what today we spell "Dow," as in "Dow-Jones." Not being a
> > >prophet, I will not venture an interpretation for this putative reading.
> > >
> > >Moreover, the language of the King James Bible is really early 17th
> > >century southern dialect, not Elizabethan. The GVS surely was over by
> > then.
> > >
> > >Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > >On Jan 17, 2011, at 11:56 PM, Herb Stahlke <hfwstahlke at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ron,
> > > >
> > > > Since, as is universally acknowledged, Christ spoke Elizabethan
> > > > English, the "as" may be a relative marker, in which case "as...you"
> > > > would be the direct object of "do."  Christ may not, however, have had
> > > > fully shifted vowels, and so perhaps he meant, "Doh."
> > > >
> > > > Herb
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Ronald Butters <ronbutters at aol.com>
> > wrote:
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> > > >> Actually, I think what Christ said was "Do unto others as you
> > > would have them do unto you."
> > > >>
> > > >> It is transitive if you count the deleted "something" as the
> > > direct object--but we find a deleted something in all of JL's examples as
> > well.
> > > >>
> > > >
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