Zhongtong bus Company

[Paul Johnston]

At least, in the Arabic examples, there are dialects that pronounce the Arabic letter jim as [Z[, though, as I remember, not Iraqi.  I don't know of any Chinese dialects/languages that have turned the unaspirated affricates to fricatives (and merge them with the original fricatives .

Paul Johnston
On Mar 1, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Herb Stahlke wrote:

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> Or "BeiZing," as most news readers and younger folk pronounce it now,
> like FalluZah, NaZaf, EliZa, etc.  It always surprised my intro
> students to hear, listening carefully, a Mandarin speaker pronounce
> Beijing.
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> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 12:12 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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>> At 2:27 AM +0000 3/1/11, Tom Zurinskas wrote:
>>> I rode on a "Zhongtong" bus in the Bahamas yesterday.  It was
>>> interesting to see "zh" in tradspel.  I assume it's the same sound
>>> as in "measure" ~mezher.  The bus is made in China.
>>>
>> Probably not.  It's more likely [dZ] as in Beijing or Zhou (as
>> represented by different Romanization traditions).  Mandarin Chinese
>> doesn't actually have the fricative of "measure", as I understand.
>>
>> LH
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