New English (?) name: Jhan

Dan Goncharoff thegonch at GMAIL.COM
Tue Mar 22 01:46:15 UTC 2011


If we're going to talk baseball, what about Jhan Mariñez of the Marlins?

DanG


On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 9:39 PM, William Palmer <palmerwil at gmail.com> wrote:

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> Maybe this doesn't count, but how 'bout Jhonny Peralta of the Detroit
> Tigers? I concede that he's Hispanic, but his name seems to be an attempt
> to
> sound Anglo.
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> As to women's names which were formerly masculine, my impression is that
> once the first girl gets a boy's name, no boy is ever given that name
> again.
> Examples are too numerous to list....Kelly, Madison, Shannon, Beverly, Kay,
> Vivian, ad infinitum.
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> Bill P
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> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com
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> > Well, one thing is that, except for "jheri curl," this is only ex. of the
> > sequence {jh} I've ever seen in English.
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> > Also, the name is presumably - or potentially - unisex, rather like
> "Jan,"
> > which, in English, I still think of in spite of the evidence as
> exclusively
> > feminine. Just as "Evelyn" used to be masculine.
> >
> > (The first masculine "Jan"  I ever heard of in English was the once
> > famous/infamous Jan Bakker.)
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> > JL
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> > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 8:48 PM, William Palmer <palmerwil at gmail.com>
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> > > An innocent question...what is unique to "Jhan", that is not unique
> > about,
> > > say, "Beyonc=E9" or DeMontez" (Stitt)...Clemson's pointguard, for
> > example?
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> > > Bill P
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> > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Victor Steinbok <aardvark66 at gmail.com
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> > > e:
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> > > > Probably from the same school of naming as Saffron and Frontine (or
> was
> > > > Fronteen?).
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> > > >     VS-)
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> > > > On 3/21/2011 5:56 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> > > > > Jhan Hochman of Portland Community College is the author of _Green
> > > > Cultural
> > > > > Studies: Nature in Film, Novel, and Theory_ (Moscow: University of
> > > Idah=
> > >  o
> > > > > Press, 1998).
> > > > > JL
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