New English (?) name: Jhan

[Jonathan Lighter]

Those are good.

But Jhan Hochman is older. (Wiki says Peralta is 28, Marinez 22. Hochman
must have been born in the '70s or before.)

JL

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 9:39 PM, William Palmer <palmerwil at gmail.com> wrote:

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> Maybe this doesn't count, but how 'bout Jhonny Peralta of the Detroit
> Tigers? I concede that he's Hispanic, but his name seems to be an attempt
> to
> sound Anglo.
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> As to women's names which were formerly masculine, my impression is that
> once the first girl gets a boy's name, no boy is ever given that name
> again.
> Examples are too numerous to list....Kelly, Madison, Shannon, Beverly, Kay,
> Vivian, ad infinitum.
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> Bill P
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> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com
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> > Well, one thing is that, except for "jheri curl," this is only ex. of the
> > sequence {jh} I've ever seen in English.
> >
> > Also, the name is presumably - or potentially - unisex, rather like
> "Jan,"
> > which, in English, I still think of in spite of the evidence as
> exclusively
> > feminine. Just as "Evelyn" used to be masculine.
> >
> > (The first masculine "Jan"  I ever heard of in English was the once
> > famous/infamous Jan Bakker.)
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> > JL
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> > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 8:48 PM, William Palmer <palmerwil at gmail.com>
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> > > An innocent question...what is unique to "Jhan", that is not unique
> > about,
> > > say, "Beyonc=E9" or DeMontez" (Stitt)...Clemson's pointguard, for
> > example?
> > >
> > > Bill P
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> > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Victor Steinbok <aardvark66 at gmail.com
> > > >wrot=
> > > e:
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> > > > Probably from the same school of naming as Saffron and Frontine (or
> was
> > > > Fronteen?).
> > > >
> > > >     VS-)
> > > >
> > > > On 3/21/2011 5:56 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> > > > > Jhan Hochman of Portland Community College is the author of _Green
> > > > Cultural
> > > > > Studies: Nature in Film, Novel, and Theory_ (Moscow: University of
> > > Idah=
> > >  o
> > > > > Press, 1998).
> > > > > JL
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