Heard on Mob Wives

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Mon May 23 00:03:05 UTC 2011

Three years earlier than when I heard it.


On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 3:13 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>wrote:

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> At 5:40 PM -0400 5/21/11, Wilson Gray wrote:
> >"I wouldn't fuck him using Drita's pussy."
> >
> >
> >Thst reminds of whst was said in the 'hood in Saint Louis, back in the
> >'40's and '50's:
> >
> >"I wouldn't fuck her with your dick."
> >
> >Presumably, the latter or similar is universally known to, if not
> >necessarily used by, all guys.
> Eventually.  I learned this one when I was discoursing on negative
> polarity items ("touch a drop", "give a tinker's dam", "(could) make
> heads or tails of") and someone in the audience introduced me to "I
> wouldn't fuck her with *your* dick" or, more allusively, "I wouldn't
> fuck her with *yours*".  It took me a while to work out why this has
> the intended force, even given the well-established NPI "wouldn't
> touch X with a ten-foot pole".  But maybe it just speaks to my
> indiscriminacy at the time, since this was in 1971.
> >  But this is the first time that I've
> >heard anything like that fall trippingly from the tongue of a woman.
> >
> >
> The "using" sounds less natural to me than "with" in these expressions.
> LH
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