no rhyme for "castle"

Janis Vizier Nihart tarheel at MYVISCOM.COM
Mon Oct 31 11:05:38 UTC 2011


castle--hassle?  tassel?
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From: "Tom Zurinskas" <truespel at HOTMAIL.COM>
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Subject: Re: no rhyme for "castle"


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> Schwa stands for many sounds but I'd say Castle ['kaest at l] (~kastool) and
> "fast'll (~fastool) are a perfect rhyme (where ~ool is as in "wool").  I
> hear "will" often said as "wool".
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> Tom Zurinskas, Conn 20 yrs, Tenn 3, NJ 33, now Fl 9.
> See how English spelling links to sounds at http://justpaste.it/ayk
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>> On Oct 30, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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>> > Famed star Lorraine Bracco clearly pronounced the "t" in "castle"
>> > while introducing the film _The Black Room_ on TNT this week.
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>> > That means she can't rhyme it successfully with any single English
>> > word. That could be a problem at some point.
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>> Not if phonological words (complete with clitics) count:
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>> I just timed a wide-out named Castle ['kaest at l]
>> I've never seen his match.
>> Someone who runs that fast'll
>> Be awfully tough to catch.
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>> [inspired by watching the aforemetioned football wrap-up show]
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>> LH
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