no rhyme for "castle"

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Mon Oct 31 16:56:04 UTC 2011


But that stuff's cheating.

As you well know.

JL

On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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> On Oct 31, 2011, at 9:53 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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>> If you say the "T" in "castle,"
>> It still won't rhyme with "pastel."
>> You may have a go at "bastle,"
>> But that won't rhyme with "orange"
>> Or "silver." What a hastle!
>>
>> JL
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>
> Very nice.  As for "orange", the closest I've encountered--posted here earlier--is this hudibrastic couplet (gratia Neal Whitman for the term):
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> The River, Where She Sleeps
> Tracy Grammer & Dave Carter
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> ...
> Professor come to burst my bubble
> says that girl is bound for trouble
> serves me solace in a paper cup.
> But it looks a bit like agent orange
> and when he leaves he slams the door an(d) j-
> -ust about that time she phones me up.
> ...
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> where ['orInJ] and ['dOrInJ] are a perfect rhyme. This inspired my effort, unconvincing though it may have been, with "castle" (+ tea) and "fast'll".   And "silver"? OK, here goes (with apologies to Sam Butler):
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> Let us seek some shirts of silver,
> periwinkle, fuchsia, midnight blue,
> plum or maize, at least until ver-
> milion can be sold to me and you.
>
> LH
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>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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>>> At 10/30/2011 05:54 PM, Ronald Butters wrote:
>>>> She vowed that all castles
>>>> Should be painted in pastels,
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>>> About as good a rhyme (with the t pronounced), in my opinion, as
>>> Sunday's Boston Globe crossword puzzle, which rhymed castle with hassle.
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>>> Joel
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