no rhyme for "castle"

[Laurence Horn]

On Oct 31, 2011, at 12:56 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:

> But that stuff's cheating.
>
> As you well know.
>
>

(The) Butler did it!

LH

> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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>> On Oct 31, 2011, at 9:53 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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>>> If you say the "T" in "castle,"
>>> It still won't rhyme with "pastel."
>>> You may have a go at "bastle,"
>>> But that won't rhyme with "orange"
>>> Or "silver." What a hastle!
>>>
>>> JL
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>>
>> Very nice.  As for "orange", the closest I've encountered--posted here earlier--is this hudibrastic couplet (gratia Neal Whitman for the term):
>>
>>
>> The River, Where She Sleeps
>> Tracy Grammer & Dave Carter
>>
>> ...
>> Professor come to burst my bubble
>> says that girl is bound for trouble
>> serves me solace in a paper cup.
>> But it looks a bit like agent orange
>> and when he leaves he slams the door an(d) j-
>> -ust about that time she phones me up.
>> ...
>>
>> where ['orInJ] and ['dOrInJ] are a perfect rhyme. This inspired my effort, unconvincing though it may have been, with "castle" (+ tea) and "fast'll".   And "silver"? OK, here goes (with apologies to Sam Butler):
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>> Let us seek some shirts of silver,
>> periwinkle, fuchsia, midnight blue,
>> plum or maize, at least until ver-
>> milion can be sold to me and you.
>>
>> LH
>>
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>>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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>>>> At 10/30/2011 05:54 PM, Ronald Butters wrote:
>>>>> She vowed that all castles
>>>>> Should be painted in pastels,
>>>>
>>>> About as good a rhyme (with the t pronounced), in my opinion, as
>>>> Sunday's Boston Globe crossword puzzle, which rhymed castle with hassle.
>>>>
>>>> Joel
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