early "gay" cite (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Laurence Horn]

On Sep 22, 2011, at 1:32 PM, Stephen Goranson wrote:

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> On Sep 22, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Mullins, Bill AMRDEC wrote:
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>> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
>> Caveats: NONE
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>>> 
>>> Of course, this is all pretty moot for the history of the lexicon as long as
>>> the 1933 ex. in HDAS holds up. If not, Grant's line loses its likelihood as
>>> a sexual reference. I do not have access to the book cited in HDAS: _The
>>> Young and Evil_, by Charles Ford and Parker Tyler (Paris, 1933). I consulted
>>> it at the NYPL forty years ago.
>>> 
>> 
> I thought Yale might have it in their old book depository ("Long Term Shelving"), but the only holdings are:
> 
> The Young and the Damned
> The Young and the Dead
> The Young and the Digital
> The Young and the Immortal
> The Young and the Old
> 
> Nice cross-section, but I see no evil.
> 
> LH
> \
> 
> If you drop the second "the" it's listed:
> BEINECKE (Non-Circulating)
> Call Number:
> Za F75 933yb
> 
Excellent point.  I checked "Young and the…", which didn't allow the correct title to surface.  In fact it's not just at Beinecke but in circulation--and not even in Long Term Shelving:

Author: Ford, Charles Henri. Title: The young & evil / Charles Ford & Parker Tyler ; with an illustrated introduction by Steven Watson. Published:   London : Gay Men’s Press, 1989, c1933. Description: 215 p. : ill. ; 20 cm.
Location: SML, Stacks, LC Classification Call Number: PS3511 O72 Y6 1989 Status: Not Checked Out

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So Fred or I could check it out (in both senses), but I won't be back on campus until Monday.  I assume "Gay Men's Press" was not the original copyright holder from 1933, or we'd have a *real* scoop!  I'll track it down Monday unless i hear otherwise from Fred or other New Haven lurkers.

LH

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