verge; was tree lawns; was Re: Off and on

Joel S. Berson Berson at ATT.NET
Fri Sep 23 16:02:19 UTC 2011


At 9/22/2011 05:51 PM, Dan Goncharoff wrote:
>I recall "verge" used somewhere I lived, but that is not necessarily helpful
>DanG

And of course someone who mows the tree-lawn is a verger.

Joel




>On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Jonathan Lighter
><wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > I never heard a term for it in NYC. In fact, I'd still call it "you know,
> > that grassy area between the sidewalk and the curb?"
> >
> > JL
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> > JL
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> > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Dan Goodman <dsgood at iphouse.com> wrote:
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> >> On 09/22/2011 10:59 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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> >> > Ohio, with its unique "devil's strip," went for Obama.
> >> >
> >> > Alert the Tea Party.
> >> >
> >> > JL
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Laurence Horn<laurence.horn at yale.edu
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> >> >> On Sep 22, 2011, at 9:54 AM, Joel S. Berson wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> At 9/22/2011 01:33 AM, Paul Johnston wrote:
> >> >>>> ... As I say, in New Jersey, there was no term, though my
> >> >>>> neighborhood had sidewalks, and so, there was a tree
> >> lawn/parkway/berm.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Nor do I, grown in NYC and living in New England, have a term.
> >> >>
> >> >> Right; I have a similar background and was disconcerted to
> see that Bert
> >> >> Vaux's otherwise very useful survey page doesn't have an entry for *my*
> >> >> favored term, i.e. "the strip of grass between the sidewalk and the
> >> curb".
> >> >>   I will concede that "tree lawn", "berm", et al. are a bit more
> >> concise.
> >> >>
> >> >> LH, recalling an abortive attempt to popularize the label "dog-turd
> >> strip"
> >> >> in the old pre-pooper-scooper era
> >>
> >> In the Twin Cities area, the term is "boulevard."  My amateur guess:
> >> originally "boulevard strip."
> >>
> >> To the best of my knowledge, New York City has no term.
> >>
> >> Berm:  For parts of my childhood, I lived on the Berme Road in Ulster
> >> County, NY.  It ran near the route of the Delaware and Hudson Canal.
> >>
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